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		<title>By: Danny Cox</title>
		<link>http://www.laurenafernandez.com/2009/08/18/why-is-community-so-important-in-social-media/#comment-876</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the first time I&#039;ve commented here, as I wanted to get a feel for the community before jumping in, and I have to say that this space&#039;s community has a very welcoming and engaging feel to it.

IMHO, community is so important in Social Media because the two are one and the same. I agree with Beth, that there are different viewpoints on how Social Media should be &quot;used&quot;. I personally feel that you don&#039;t &quot;use&quot; SM, but rather participate, engage, and communicate with people. Not audiences or targets, but people. 

In a time when everything is digital, impersonal, and instant, it&#039;s not surprising that the electronic realm has evolved into creating social spaces for communities to grow. Humans are social animals by nature, and the internet and New Media tools give us the ability to reach out and find those whose interests most closely mirror and resemble our own. 

Which gives rise to the differences in thought and philosophies of SM: different folks with different ideas will tend to congregate with others who agree. This is great in the fact that it allows us to get our Maslow&#039;s sense of belonging, but the danger lies in the possibility of being completely sheltered from other schools of thought, leading to intellectual and personal stagnation. 

Communities are so important in SM because SM has grown to facilitate community building and engagement. People didn&#039;t start using Twitter to follow what their favorite brands are up to; people&#039;s favorite brands are signing up to follow what people are up to (the good ones, anyhow. The bad ones just fill timelines with spammy updates).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the first time I&#8217;ve commented here, as I wanted to get a feel for the community before jumping in, and I have to say that this space&#8217;s community has a very welcoming and engaging feel to it.</p>
<p>IMHO, community is so important in Social Media because the two are one and the same. I agree with Beth, that there are different viewpoints on how Social Media should be &#8220;used&#8221;. I personally feel that you don&#8217;t &#8220;use&#8221; SM, but rather participate, engage, and communicate with people. Not audiences or targets, but people. </p>
<p>In a time when everything is digital, impersonal, and instant, it&#8217;s not surprising that the electronic realm has evolved into creating social spaces for communities to grow. Humans are social animals by nature, and the internet and New Media tools give us the ability to reach out and find those whose interests most closely mirror and resemble our own. </p>
<p>Which gives rise to the differences in thought and philosophies of SM: different folks with different ideas will tend to congregate with others who agree. This is great in the fact that it allows us to get our Maslow&#8217;s sense of belonging, but the danger lies in the possibility of being completely sheltered from other schools of thought, leading to intellectual and personal stagnation. </p>
<p>Communities are so important in SM because SM has grown to facilitate community building and engagement. People didn&#8217;t start using Twitter to follow what their favorite brands are up to; people&#8217;s favorite brands are signing up to follow what people are up to (the good ones, anyhow. The bad ones just fill timelines with spammy updates).</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren Fernandez</title>
		<link>http://www.laurenafernandez.com/2009/08/18/why-is-community-so-important-in-social-media/#comment-867</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren Fernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly, Colby. Thanks for reading!</description>
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		<title>By: Colby Gergen</title>
		<link>http://www.laurenafernandez.com/2009/08/18/why-is-community-so-important-in-social-media/#comment-866</link>
		<dc:creator>Colby Gergen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going off the question, &quot;Why is community so important in social media?&quot;, well, the answer seems simple, IMO.  Social media is community.  It&#039;s just on the interwebz.  Without community, there is no social media.  The communities we already were a part of (had been a part of, wanted to be a part of, whatever tense you prefer), are just enhanced and enlarged by social media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going off the question, &#8220;Why is community so important in social media?&#8221;, well, the answer seems simple, IMO.  Social media is community.  It&#8217;s just on the interwebz.  Without community, there is no social media.  The communities we already were a part of (had been a part of, wanted to be a part of, whatever tense you prefer), are just enhanced and enlarged by social media.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren Fernandez</title>
		<link>http://www.laurenafernandez.com/2009/08/18/why-is-community-so-important-in-social-media/#comment-835</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren Fernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should be - but not every PR professional understands that. At least IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should be &#8211; but not every PR professional understands that. At least IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Kasey Skala</title>
		<link>http://www.laurenafernandez.com/2009/08/18/why-is-community-so-important-in-social-media/#comment-834</link>
		<dc:creator>Kasey Skala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, as PR folks, isn&#039;t building a community the ultimate goal? Whether it be for our clients/organization or ourselves?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, as PR folks, isn&#8217;t building a community the ultimate goal? Whether it be for our clients/organization or ourselves?</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren Fernandez</title>
		<link>http://www.laurenafernandez.com/2009/08/18/why-is-community-so-important-in-social-media/#comment-833</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren Fernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love your point about trusting - because isn&#039;t that what a community is about? It&#039;s about respect, learning and understanding other opinions.

Thanks for the great comment Mike - as always!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love your point about trusting &#8211; because isn&#8217;t that what a community is about? It&#8217;s about respect, learning and understanding other opinions.</p>
<p>Thanks for the great comment Mike &#8211; as always!</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren Fernandez</title>
		<link>http://www.laurenafernandez.com/2009/08/18/why-is-community-so-important-in-social-media/#comment-832</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren Fernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, brother. If you show how you can use social media, you can also relate to your community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, brother. If you show how you can use social media, you can also relate to your community.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren Fernandez</title>
		<link>http://www.laurenafernandez.com/2009/08/18/why-is-community-so-important-in-social-media/#comment-831</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren Fernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your point about different communities - it&#039;s right with what I was trying to say about how you can disagree. That&#039;s what is great about SM - people challenge you and have different viewpoints. I&#039;d hate for it to be the invasion of the iPhone body snatchers up in here.

Presentation is key to community as well, and I think we saw that yesterday.

I think we can relate this back to PR and branding - you have to understand your client, their viewpoints and what is important to them. You are representing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your point about different communities &#8211; it&#8217;s right with what I was trying to say about how you can disagree. That&#8217;s what is great about SM &#8211; people challenge you and have different viewpoints. I&#8217;d hate for it to be the invasion of the iPhone body snatchers up in here.</p>
<p>Presentation is key to community as well, and I think we saw that yesterday.</p>
<p>I think we can relate this back to PR and branding &#8211; you have to understand your client, their viewpoints and what is important to them. You are representing them.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Harte</title>
		<link>http://www.laurenafernandez.com/2009/08/18/why-is-community-so-important-in-social-media/#comment-830</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth Harte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauren, community is all important in my book...and not just because of what happened to me. Heck, that happens to organizations EVERY DAY. My point in the way I handled the situation was to prove AND show organizations a different way to handle it...and that was by tapping into my community. 

As communications/marketing/PR professionals our first reaction is to become defensive and try to shut people down in an effort to protect our organizations. But there is much more at play in these situations (on- or off-line) and as professionals engaged in social media, we need to understand that so we know how to best handle it.

First and foremost, Rebecca and most SEOs are not in my community...they have their own established community. Second, the two communities (SEO &amp; Marketing/PR/SM) don&#039;t necessarily agree on what social media (tools vs. concept)  is and how it should be implemented or used. 

That clarified, of course Rebecca wouldn&#039;t have agreed with what I was talking about on the panel...we have two completely different philosophies and I was an outsider in *their* community (this was a conference geared towards SEOs). But, that said, I don&#039;t appreciate slanderous comments or being misquoted (which have still not been corrected, BTW). Who would?

Of course, I don&#039;t agree with the light Rebecca presented me in, but then again from where I sit, she doesn&#039;t understand the value of social media, PR or marketing...and most likely, we&#039;ll never agree. From that perspective, sometimes it&#039;s just best to let it go versus trying to have a debate over philosophies &amp; experience. 

So what&#039;s the moral of the story here? 

There is a possibility that multiple communities exist for an organization, they have different agendas, their philosophies on what&#039;s right/wrong might not line-up, and everyone has an opinion. 

As a PR professional it&#039;s really important to understand and be involved with each community so that you have a sense of what&#039;s important to them, how they think, etc. Otherwise when there is a situation, you won&#039;t have all the details/insights needed to diffuse it in the best way possible.

Thanks Lauren!

Beth Harte
Community Manager, MarketingProfs
@bethharte</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lauren, community is all important in my book&#8230;and not just because of what happened to me. Heck, that happens to organizations EVERY DAY. My point in the way I handled the situation was to prove AND show organizations a different way to handle it&#8230;and that was by tapping into my community. </p>
<p>As communications/marketing/PR professionals our first reaction is to become defensive and try to shut people down in an effort to protect our organizations. But there is much more at play in these situations (on- or off-line) and as professionals engaged in social media, we need to understand that so we know how to best handle it.</p>
<p>First and foremost, Rebecca and most SEOs are not in my community&#8230;they have their own established community. Second, the two communities (SEO &amp; Marketing/PR/SM) don&#8217;t necessarily agree on what social media (tools vs. concept)  is and how it should be implemented or used. </p>
<p>That clarified, of course Rebecca wouldn&#8217;t have agreed with what I was talking about on the panel&#8230;we have two completely different philosophies and I was an outsider in *their* community (this was a conference geared towards SEOs). But, that said, I don&#8217;t appreciate slanderous comments or being misquoted (which have still not been corrected, BTW). Who would?</p>
<p>Of course, I don&#8217;t agree with the light Rebecca presented me in, but then again from where I sit, she doesn&#8217;t understand the value of social media, PR or marketing&#8230;and most likely, we&#8217;ll never agree. From that perspective, sometimes it&#8217;s just best to let it go versus trying to have a debate over philosophies &amp; experience. </p>
<p>So what&#8217;s the moral of the story here? </p>
<p>There is a possibility that multiple communities exist for an organization, they have different agendas, their philosophies on what&#8217;s right/wrong might not line-up, and everyone has an opinion. </p>
<p>As a PR professional it&#8217;s really important to understand and be involved with each community so that you have a sense of what&#8217;s important to them, how they think, etc. Otherwise when there is a situation, you won&#8217;t have all the details/insights needed to diffuse it in the best way possible.</p>
<p>Thanks Lauren!</p>
<p>Beth Harte<br />
Community Manager, MarketingProfs<br />
@bethharte</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Creating a community allows you to put out fires before they start...which is exactly what Beth was able to effectively do. She called bullshit and the community that supports her reacted accordingly...but this wouldn&#039;t have happened had she not been engaging, interacting and communicating openly with her community about the process/incident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creating a community allows you to put out fires before they start&#8230;which is exactly what Beth was able to effectively do. She called bullshit and the community that supports her reacted accordingly&#8230;but this wouldn&#8217;t have happened had she not been engaging, interacting and communicating openly with her community about the process/incident.</p>
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